Comments on: Martial Arts meet the US Military… http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:05:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Malach http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-89 Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:53:04 +0000 http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-89 Which in turn, is straight out of Sun Tzu. Which in turn, is straight out of Sun Tzu.

]]> by: David http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-88 Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:00:02 +0000 http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-88 Yeah, and I really like your point too. I liken it analogously to using as little personnel and economic resources as possible while allowing the opponent to use up theirs. Yeah, and I really like your point too. I liken it analogously to using as little personnel and economic resources as possible while allowing the opponent to use up theirs.

]]> by: Malach http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-87 Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:19:20 +0000 http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-87 When striking, return as fast as possible. However, recent US military actions haven't been (in the broad sense) strikes, they have been more like attempts to subdue, or restrain an opponent. In cases like that, you arrange yourself so that your opponents struggles wear them, tire them out while you remain relatively static, quite relaxed. My preferred art is aikido, can you tell? When striking, return as fast as possible. However, recent US military actions haven’t been (in the broad sense) strikes, they have been more like attempts to subdue, or restrain an opponent. In cases like that, you arrange yourself so that your opponents struggles wear them, tire them out while you remain relatively static, quite relaxed.

My preferred art is aikido, can you tell?

]]> by: David http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-86 Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:20:41 +0000 http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-86 The way I envision the military, it can apply. The military should strike quickly with the surgical strikes that you mention until you have won the battle. Once a victory is established you move the part of the military body that is meant for fighting out, and then move in a new part. A division that is meant specifically for helping and rebuilding. With the money that we pay our military I think it would be great if we had a military force that concentated on rebuilding with speed and a high degree of quality. Kinda like the Army Corps of Engineers on steriods. How much cooler would it be to have a military that could build the infrastructure for a nation in a matter of months than to have one that could destroy it in the same time? Obviously, building is a lot harder... so that kind of ability to build quickly at high standards would be a lofty next goal for an ever more impressive US military. Let's reach for it. The way I envision the military, it can apply. The military should strike quickly with the surgical strikes that you mention until you have won the battle. Once a victory is established you move the part of the military body that is meant for fighting out, and then move in a new part. A division that is meant specifically for helping and rebuilding.
With the money that we pay our military I think it would be great if we had a military force that concentated on rebuilding with speed and a high degree of quality. Kinda like the Army Corps of Engineers on steriods. How much cooler would it be to have a military that could build the infrastructure for a nation in a matter of months than to have one that could destroy it in the same time?
Obviously, building is a lot harder… so that kind of ability to build quickly at high standards would be a lofty next goal for an ever more impressive US military. Let’s reach for it.

]]> by: John http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-85 Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:11:30 +0000 http://gatorpressure.com/blog/2003/09/23/martial-arts-meet-the-us-military/#comment-85 I think that the Cold War era Mutually Assured Destruction was an example of the first principle. We prepared to fight a long-range nuclear war with the Soviet Union for better than forty years, knowing that by preparing to fight, and being confident in our ability to utterly destroy the enemy, we would never have to actually do it. The second doesn't seem to really apply to modern warfare. Unless you're talking about surgical strikes, which do little than destroy a target and let whoever is around do the cleaning up, then you are going to have to leave troops on the battlefield for a long time. Once we went into Iraq, for instance, and began destroying their government and infrastructure, we were committed to rebuilding the nation afterward. We couldn't very well just go in there, blow the place up, and then walk back out and say "oh, have fun putting things back together again." That's just not a realistic option in modern international affairs. The third, yes, I agree. At the lower levels our military is learning that, but it has not quite managed to permeate into the upper levels of military and civilian leadership. I think that the Cold War era Mutually Assured Destruction was an example of the first principle. We prepared to fight a long-range nuclear war with the Soviet Union for better than forty years, knowing that by preparing to fight, and being confident in our ability to utterly destroy the enemy, we would never have to actually do it.

The second doesn’t seem to really apply to modern warfare. Unless you’re talking about surgical strikes, which do little than destroy a target and let whoever is around do the cleaning up, then you are going to have to leave troops on the battlefield for a long time. Once we went into Iraq, for instance, and began destroying their government and infrastructure, we were committed to rebuilding the nation afterward. We couldn’t very well just go in there, blow the place up, and then walk back out and say “oh, have fun putting things back together again.” That’s just not a realistic option in modern international affairs.

The third, yes, I agree. At the lower levels our military is learning that, but it has not quite managed to permeate into the upper levels of military and civilian leadership.

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